Noel worked with the leading Dutch photographer of gardens, Maayke de Ridder, on a book which came out at the end of 2021 – published in English as Under Big Skies – Re-imaginging Outdoor Space the Dutch Way. Here the two talk about why they did the book, what makes Dutch gardens special, about some of the designers whose work is featured in the book, and about the Dutch landscape. https://filbertpress.com/gardens-under-big-skies/ and https://www.bornmeer.nl/winkel/van-landschap-naar-tuin/